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Voloshka
Voloshka  Identity Verified
Local time: 10:34
angličtina -> ruština
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Agencies' rates Jun 1, 2006

Some replies from some European and North-American agencies:
"Sorry, your rates are a little rich for our tastes. For your pairs, we are not paying more than US$0.05/source word and, on big projects, $0.035"
"Can you work at .03 cents per word? This is the rate we are looking for."
"Our budget is 10 dollars for 315 words"
My favorite one: "Dear translator, You must lower your rates 2 units. We lowered your rates in our database"
Just like that.

Alyo
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Some replies from some European and North-American agencies:
"Sorry, your rates are a little rich for our tastes. For your pairs, we are not paying more than US$0.05/source word and, on big projects, $0.035"
"Can you work at .03 cents per word? This is the rate we are looking for."
"Our budget is 10 dollars for 315 words"
My favorite one: "Dear translator, You must lower your rates 2 units. We lowered your rates in our database"
Just like that.

Alyona
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Claudia Iglesias
Claudia Iglesias  Identity Verified
Chile
Local time: 03:34
Člen (2002)
španělština -> francouzština
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I liked this one Jun 2, 2006

from a direct client:

"Sorry, but your rate is too expensive for me for an offshore work".

No comment.

Claudia


 
Henry Hinds
Henry Hinds  Identity Verified
Spojené státy americké
Local time: 01:34
angličtina -> španělština
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In memoriam
Cheapo, Cheapo Jun 2, 2006

Again... "Payment is $0.03 per word..." from Moldova.

Please pardon the title, but it is indeed descriptive in addition to being an attention-grabber, and it did grab a lot of attention.

I just wonder if this strategy of trying to force rates down to almost zero actually works for them?

Just for fun I ought to bid on one of these, just a short one. I could say: "Since you cannot offer higher rates, surely your financial situation, the competition you face a
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Again... "Payment is $0.03 per word..." from Moldova.

Please pardon the title, but it is indeed descriptive in addition to being an attention-grabber, and it did grab a lot of attention.

I just wonder if this strategy of trying to force rates down to almost zero actually works for them?

Just for fun I ought to bid on one of these, just a short one. I could say: "Since you cannot offer higher rates, surely your financial situation, the competition you face and the business conditions under which you are operating must be quite difficult. In addition, just sending a payment must entail further dificulties and expenses, especially in hard currency. Thus, understanding your position, I am offering to do it free of charge, since I enjoy translating and money is really not important to me.

I wonder what the response would be?
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sarahl (X)
sarahl (X)
Local time: 00:34
angličtina -> francouzština
+ ...
They still don't get it! Jun 4, 2006

Same agency -or so it seems, I can no longer see the company's details-, same approach:

"...their most competitive and affordable rates, taking into serious consideration the sky-high difference in the standard of living between Europe and Africa".

Should we tell them we cannot afford to work at rock-bottom rates because of the sky-high difference in the standard of living between the US and Africa?




[Edited at 2006-06-04 17:16]


 
Susana Galilea
Susana Galilea  Identity Verified
Spojené státy americké
Local time: 02:34
angličtina -> španělština
+ ...
same old Jun 4, 2006

sarahl wrote:
Same agency -or so it seems, I can no longer see the company's details-, same approach:



Notice how previously they justified their rates by specifying they didn't require a "heavyweight" translator, whereas on this occasion they are asking for "professional translators with very long experience (15 years+)".

Yet they are still fishing for the cheapest provider with the same ill-advised arguments.

No comment.

Susana


 
Ralf Lemster
Ralf Lemster  Identity Verified
Německo
Local time: 09:34
angličtina -> němčina
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Repeating myself: contact a moderator Jun 4, 2006

Sarah,
At the risk of repeating myself: contact a Jobs/BB moderator.


"...their most competitive and affordable rates, taking into serious consideration the sky-high difference in the standard of living between Europe and Africa".

Should we tell them we cannot afford to work at rock-bottom rates because of the sky-high difference in the standard of living between the US and Africa?


No need to tell them anything - had you contacted a moderator, we could have removed the posting straight away. (Note that a site rule dealing with such comments in job postings was introduced in response to the previous problem.

Regards,
Ralf


 
Aleksandr Okunev (X)
Aleksandr Okunev (X)
Local time: 10:34
angličtina -> ruština
Another rate calculator on Proz Jun 18, 2006

Ralf Lemster wrote:
Sarah, At the risk of repeating myself: contact a Jobs/BB moderator.
Regards,
Ralf


I would like to see another rate calculator on Proz, for both translators and sane clients (I would never think of educating a 1-cent-a-word agency).

Say, you input your rate per word, number of words, deadline, subject, press a button and see that you are willing to have this job done for a fee more/less than a dentist's/lawyer's/maid's/nightman's/garbage collector's average rate.

This would be vivid and quite sobering. Some people, even decent folks, have difficulties understanding that most of the people on Proz and in the translation community are NOT high school grads saving for a new motorbike, but professionals who possess certain intellectual properties, making it very easy for them to apply their abilities elsewhere. For example, writing a self-study brochure for English learners takes 4 weeks and fetches 5k USD in Russia without reprints. I know a couple of guys who make a living producing online English lessons. They have good income, a lot of fun and all the gratitude from the army of their pupils.

My 2 kopecks
Stay well!
Aleksandr


[Edited at 2006-06-18 11:23]


 
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