Some common mistakes Autor vlákna: Heinrich Pesch
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Heinrich Pesch 
Finsko
Local time: 22:07
Člen (2003)
finština -> němčina
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| | One of my favourites... | Jul 23, 2010 |
... is than and then!
| | | | Brian Young
Spojené státy americké
Local time: 12:07
dánština -> angličtina
| not the same | Jul 23, 2010 |
Than and then are not pronounced the same, although in everyday speech it may sound that way. I always try to make a clear distinction between the two. There and their, however, do sound exactly the same.
| | | | Nicole Schnell
Spojené státy americké
Local time: 12:07
angličtina -> němčina
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In memoriam | Speech recognition | Jul 23, 2010 |
Interesting point. I have never used it and I am curious how speech recognition deals with:
hour (pronunciation: au(-ə)r) and
our (pronunciation: au(-ə)r)
for example.
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Judith Kiraly
Spojené státy americké
Local time: 12:07
angličtina -> maďarština
The speech recognition software can take into account the context (3 words) based on a statistical model.
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Prayer and prayer are confusing to some.
A local choir performing the well-known "Hear my prayer" pronounced 'prayer' in the context of a person praying, which was incorrect.
I carefully pointed this out to the choir leader but to no avail - the same mistake was made in a performance a year later.
Some people can english good.
| | | | Brian Young
Spojené státy americké
Local time: 12:07
dánština -> angličtina
| Judith is right | Jul 23, 2010 |
I have been using speech recognition whenever possible, and although I never thought about this as a potential problem, the program always seems to get it right (almost).
Next time I will try a little test.
If we use one hour on our project, then it will be less than their project over there.
| | | | Nicole Schnell
Spojené státy americké
Local time: 12:07
angličtina -> němčina
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In memoriam | Thanks, Judith! | Jul 23, 2010 |
Judith Kiraly wrote:
The speech recognition software can take into account the context (3 words) based on a statistical model.
Thanks for the info!
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opolt
Německo
Local time: 21:07
angličtina -> němčina
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| This reminds of the phonetics course ... | Jul 23, 2010 |
... during my English studies. One of the sentences we had to practise aloud went like this:
"If I had a hat." "If I had a hat." "If I had a hat."
(The background is that in German, final consonants often turn into their hard, aspired versions if in final position, such that "Abend" is pronounced like "Abent", "Tag" as "Tak" , "ab" as "ap", etc. What we call "Auslautverhärtung". -- So this was one of those exercises intended to "de-learn" the habit.)
We al... See more ... during my English studies. One of the sentences we had to practise aloud went like this:
"If I had a hat." "If I had a hat." "If I had a hat."
(The background is that in German, final consonants often turn into their hard, aspired versions if in final position, such that "Abend" is pronounced like "Abent", "Tag" as "Tak" , "ab" as "ap", etc. What we call "Auslautverhärtung". -- So this was one of those exercises intended to "de-learn" the habit.)
We also had exercises to dinstiguish between "than" and "then" (mentioned earlier in the thread).
-- (Oops, this is another one: "thread vs. threat".)
I keep telling people that contrary to the almost universal belief in this country, English is a rather difficult language for German natives to learn, partly owing to its many phonetic subtleties and irregularities. But of course, no-one ever wants to believe me ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Similar problem in OCR | Jul 25, 2010 |
That's not exclusive to voice recognition. Apparently it happens every time machines are expected to "understand" human language.
Though there are several letter combinations that - depending on the font used - cause two letters to be merged, or one letter to be split, the most frustrating OCR flaw is to merge lowercase RNinto M, or to split a lowercase M into RN. A spellchecker will accept both, e.g. "dam" (DAM) and "darn" (DARN).
Other common such things are:
D ... See more That's not exclusive to voice recognition. Apparently it happens every time machines are expected to "understand" human language.
Though there are several letter combinations that - depending on the font used - cause two letters to be merged, or one letter to be split, the most frustrating OCR flaw is to merge lowercase RNinto M, or to split a lowercase M into RN. A spellchecker will accept both, e.g. "dam" (DAM) and "darn" (DARN).
Other common such things are:
D into I)
O (letter "o") into 0 (zero)
I into |
l (lowercase L) and 1 (one)
Of course, good OCR software has its own internal "spellchecker" to fix most - but not all - of these.
Things get worse when diacritics are involved. "ó" (letter O with an acute accent) is often a dead ringer for the number 6.
So if accuracy is a top priority after a human-to-machine comversion, careful human reading of the text in some monospace font may be unavoidable.
[Edited at 2010-07-25 12:16 GMT] ▲ Collapse
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